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Anonymous
October 12, 2008 11:43 am
Just for fun, let's think that the son is severely disabled and that the widowed father wishes to be able to continue to care for his son. How may are on board then?
I think the great mistake here is thinking of the family unit as a tool designed solely to produce children missing its other functions of care and mutual support thus lessening their need for government assistance.
I think marriage can be a great and wonderful thing but it's not sufficient or even necessary for a family. We need to separate the sanctity of marriage from the tools to maintain a family. Marriage should be in the churches domain where churches can ordain those relationships that it deems worthy. Families should have equal standing out side of any particular religious tradition.
Ericka Andersen
October 13, 2008 10:28 am
It's tough for me to compare adult, consensual homosexual relationships to alcoholism, a destructive substance abuse habit. However, I see the slope you are speaking of and I do believe that cultural changes have fostered the growth of homosexuality. But then I also think that there have always been this many gay people -- they just weren't okay with letting it be known before. Maybe that's your point, that in the past they chose to have relationships with the opposite sex anyway, to "fit in" or be normal.
The only real opposition I can muster to oppose the rise of homosexuality is from the Bible. I dont' believe God created us with these intentions but that is often perceived as a weak argument. For those who aren't religious, this means absolutely nothing.
There is a fine line here though. While I want to let gay people be gay if that makes them happy, I can see where the mentality can lead to the accpetance of other behaviors. For example, on Oprah recently she featured pol
Ericka Andersen
October 13, 2008 10:29 am
olygomous families and one could have walked away from the show thinking that was perfectly fine because those people were happy with their lives.
In short, I struggle with where I stand but I think the discussion is a good thing.
Anonymous
October 22, 2008 12:50 pm
So, another "variable": The 60 year old is the father and the 30 year old is the daughter. Illegal. Should be. Would be. No slope here, slippery or otherwise.
Anonymous
November 11, 2008 10:37 am
Justin. I feel equally concerned as you about the breakdown of nuclear and extended family units. But this endemic problem has little to do with the so-called "gay agenda". In fact, recognizing gay marriage would do quite a bit to ameliorate the problem of a promiscuous, shallow society.
Homosexuals should have the right to form a family just as much as their heterosexual siblings. Very few people would argue we should restrict oral or anal sex in a heterosexual household, or prevent sterile women from marrying since they can't become pregnant. Gay sex may have a "yuck" factor but so does elderly sex or obese sex or kinky BDSM sex. Not a sufficient reason to prevent these people from creating a family.
I realize this isn't likely to change your mind. In fact I would guess that most straight people have a biological, intrinsic aversion to homosexuality that is simply reinforced by a historically homophobic culture. And if you've lived with that for 30+ years one is not particularly inclined to veer to the complete opposite end of the spectrum. But this is simply a question of equal rights, in the same way as upholding interracial marriage or women's suffrage was.
I'm pretty racially tolerant, and young, but I can admit that sometimes I get a bit uneasy with interracial couples who look radically different. Like if a really light-skinned guy/girl is holding hands with a indigo-dark guy-girl. It's visually jarring. But this is just a Jack Sprat phenomenon, where something is aesthetically unpleasing but ethically valid.
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